hashtagparkerluck: (I... might be an idiot)
Peter Parker ([personal profile] hashtagparkerluck) wrote in [community profile] voidtreckernet2020-04-29 08:41 pm

Video | Day 29

[ Peter doesn't look nearly as energetic today and it's way earlier than he's usually seen as it's probably not much of a secret that he sleeps late. Really late. ]

Hey everyone-so I have a quick little PSA for you all and then I'm gonna go back to trying ta sleep I guess. Maybe it'll work out better. Um... anyways uh... I tried not to let it get to me buuuuut it did. So yeah-

Don't ever, ever say that what someone went through doesn't matter. It just makes you look like a jerk. It doesn't matter if you know what they've gone through or not-don't say it.

It does matter to them and you have no idea why or how much it mattered. So yeah, just don't say it.

that's all I have. I'm going to bed. 'Night.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away cool)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-30 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'll probably regret this, but I'm going to try to explain it as calmly and patiently as I can.

You left out the context. The situation was that one person was defending another's behavior by invoking what they'd been through. Saying those events don't matter, in this case, means that it isn't an excuse for the behavior. Nothing more.

Let me give you an example. A man stabs a woman. Bad behavior, right? Does it matter that the woman reminds him of an old lover who betrayed him? Does it matter that he was trained to kill from a young age? No. The woman's still stabbed. The act was still wrong. What the guy had been through doesn't matter.

A man betrays his best friend. But that man has secretly been jealous of his best friend and in love with that friend's wife. Does that make the betrayal okay? Does his pain and jealousy excuse it? It does not. The act is still wrong.

You see a man preparing to hurl a wall of flames into a town. Do you stop to ask his history? When he says, "You have no idea what I've been through," do you back off and let him do it?

Whatever pain people have, whatever they've endured, it doesn't change the nature of right and wrong. They still make their choices. They can succumb, or they can grow. So yes, those events matter to them on a personal level. But when it comes to what they do... no. They don't matter. What matters is the choices you make.

That man from the second example. I asked why we should let him back. What if he was weak enough to succumb to that influence again? What would we do when the evil we fought claims his heart again?

He didn't say it wouldn't happen. He didn't say we should understand his pain, or sympathize with him, or forgive him, or even try to restore his heart again. His answer was simply, "Kill me without a second thought."

He made his choice, to die before causing anyone any more harm. And that was when I could rest assured that he was on our side to stay, and trust him with my life in battle.
onehandsomeslickninja: (a little uncertain)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-30 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
You -- no. No, I said, what do we do when he succumbs to the influence of our enemy and betray us, and he said he would rather die than betray us. That's the point. If his only choice were betrayal or death, he'd choose death. I'm really not sure where you're getting anything else out of that.

[The rest of it? He's just ignoring. The kid wants to slander him to the entire train, he's not going to just go without making his defense. The explanation isn't for him, it's for everyone else. Edge figures no one will listen, but if they choose to believe the kid straight out, then it's either because they willfully chose not to hear him, or they really do believe that people can do terrible things and have their histories excuse it. Either way, their scorn and disdain doesn't matter at all to Edge.]

[And everything else the kid is saying now? They'd heard the conversation if they chose to, they could interpret it as they will. Probably they'd choose to hear it as the kid is saying it now, which Edge considers quite different from what he'd actually said then... but again.]


Let me argue it this way. None of you know what I've been through, none of you care. Because it doesn't matter. As far as our disagreements have been concerned, it absolutely doesn't matter. That's just a blade that cuts both ways, you see?
onehandsomeslickninja: (cold look)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-30 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
[To Edge, this is a pathetic and transparent excuse. The kid wanted to take another shot at him, and did so by twisting his words and taking them out of context and spreading them to everyone. This whiny play of "I'm so saaad, and when you explain it's okay for me to ignore it and try to make you the villain because I'm so PURE and INNOCENT" disgusts him. He doesn't understand for a second why anyone buys this.]

[He's starting to think he's given the boy too little credit for manipulation. To say in one breath that he doesn't want to hurt anyone while overtly encouraging others to hurt Edge himself? That's impressive. And it sickens Edge.]


You played this well, I'll give you that much.

[And that's the end of it from Edge. He has to go prepare for another round of attacks, after all.]
thebetterweapon: (Caged)

[personal profile] thebetterweapon 2020-04-30 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Kid, it's alright, go to bed. You're not gonna get sense out of this. You're right, it's a shitty thing to say and we're all stuck here, trying to get along. Well, at least some of us.

Now, you want some hot cocoa or somethni'?
thebetterweapon: (Coffee bub)

[personal profile] thebetterweapon 2020-05-01 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, I'll bring ya some.

[ And sure enough, he comes with two hot chocolates for the spider kids. But then he leaves them alone, because sometimes, he's not such a dick. ]
notapprovedtrash: made by me don't take (talking)

[personal profile] notapprovedtrash 2020-04-30 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Just...before I say anything? Keep in mind I'm trying to remain impartial and not take sides. But I want to tell you something that I heard someone say a good, long while ago.

If you go around expecting to see offense in everything someone says or does, you're always going to have reason to be offended. Much like if you expect everything to end in a fight, you'll end up in a fight. But you brought it on yourself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
onehandsomeslickninja: (by my blade)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-05-01 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That blade cuts both ways, and considering what's been said, I think which way it cuts is clear.
notapprovedtrash: made by me don't take (Default)

[personal profile] notapprovedtrash 2020-05-01 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And that just proved my point.