video from greenhouse

[eyeslikeblood]

[ As usual, Gyousou has been visiting the greenhouse to check on the small plant from his world. Which, in turn, has led him to some navel-gazing. ]

I have been thinking recently on the future of this journey of ours. Preparation is key for any venture, and perhaps we have been too reactionary... We are able to purchase animals and supplies, but perhaps it might be worthwhile to request a riboku, so that we might grow animals of our own and gain some self-sufficiency. I'm not familiar with customs for the creation of a riboku outside of my own land, but in Tai the village would assemble in a festival gathering, so that their prayers may all be heard.

[ He smiles slightly, expression wry. ] Ordinarily, we would also register the settlement on the divine lists... but here I suppose notifying the train itself would work just as well.

[OoC: Threads can and will be threadjacked by Taiki as he tries to do cultural damage control, let me know in your tag if that's not okay!]

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Sorry for the slow /)(\

[mtsilver_conquor]

[Things Eva did not think she'd be doing: Giving The Talk to a grown man.

Things Eva is doing: Exactly that.]

Ok so... How about you both start by telling me how things work on your world? That way I can try and explain better?

[Maybe?]

[longforgottenpromise]

Sorry Iden'no san. [He really does look sorry.] I lived most of my life on earth so if it is too awkward for you... I can explain. In our world though... People pray to tentei and tie a ribbon around a riboku... that is a tree in their village and then a child will grow.

[He actually doesn't know exactly how it works. He hopes Lord Gyousou can explain more.]

[eyeslikeblood]

I should have learned more about taika when I had the chance, hm? [ He's mostly taking this entire fiasco well, besides the few people who decided to use it for ridicule.

Still, he's attentive to Eva, and his expression is one that acknowledges that she and Taiki are both finding this deeply uncomfortable. In recognition of that, he keeps his explanation factual. ]

Kouri has said the essentials. A married couple, should they decide to honour the heavens by raising a child, will weave a ribbon expressing their wish. They will tie that ribbon around a branch of a riboku and, if Tentei wills it, a ranka will grow on that branch. Only the petitioning couple is able to pluck the fruit when ripe, and have the child hatch.

/late :(

[mtsilver_conquor]

It's fine.

[She has this!]

Basically, to have a baby naturally, a woman has to have sex with man who ejaculates inside of her, and if she's lucky, she'll fall pregnant, but sometimes it takes months before that happens. Basically, inside the body there's what we call a womb and the baby grows in that and after nine months, the woman pushes the baby out into the world.

What you say happens in your world is actually pretty similar to something in my world that people who can't have children naturally use -such as same-sex couples-, but less of a tree and more a tank that functions like a womb until the baby's ready to come out. I'm not actually sure how it all works, only that it does.

[She knows the basic laws around the tanks though.]

[longforgottenpromise]

A tank?

[He looks at Lord Gyousou and gives the tiniest of shrugs to show he doesn't know any further, it seems like that is a way his and Eva's world differ.

The rest though is the same and he sits trying to not look too awkward.]

[eyeslikeblood]

[ The talk of luck, and of a woman containing the growing child... he's sure his expression betrays his distaste for both aspects.

The tank confuses him just as much, but given that she's readily admitted that she doesn't know much about it, he decides not to take their lack of understanding personally. He smiles briefly at Taiki's shrug, and lifts one shoulder himself to return the gesture. ]

I see. It sounds like a dangerous, unreliable process to me, I'm afraid.

[mtsilver_conquor]

Yeah. I think it's known as that because it's kinda like an opaque fishtank.

[There's a wry smile.] It can be that, yeah, though, through science and medicine, we've made it as safe as can be for both mother and child. There's also drugs on the market that make it impossible for the mother to accidentally get pregnant before she's ready. Some women go their entire lives without wanting any children.

[She's not even touching on the unreliable part. That is so not stuff one talks about around boys.]

The riboku doesn't have dangers?

[longforgottenpromise]

I don't think so. [He glanced at Lord Gyousou as well, because he doesn't know truthfully.] At least not to the parents...

[eyeslikeblood]

[ He shakes his head to both of their looks. ] Not from the riboku itself. A ribboned branch might not grow a fruit, if the couple isn't deemed fit. Some couples choose to part ways, if their branches remain barren for too long...

Of course, the greatest danger has always been the loss of ranka caused by the shoku storms.

[mtsilver_conquor]

I see. So, if a branch doesn't grow a ranka -the egg of the child?- it could be likened to infertility or, well, barrenness.

[Not the most pleasant of thoughts, considering she does want a child one day, but it is what it is.]

What's a shoku storm?

[longforgottenpromise]

[He nods at Eva, he guesses it is a bit like barrenness or infertility but different in another way. He is not sure what reasons the gods would have for denying a child.]

It is a storm or a calamity that is caused when our world and another world, called earth, clash together. Sometimes people from earth are blown over into our world during those storms and sometimes ranka are blown from our world into earth.

[eyeslikeblood]

Generally it's considered that it isn't the right time for them to have a child, or that their prayers are insincere.

[ He hadn't paid much attention to it personally, having never planned for a family. The reports and scrolls after his ascension were dry of exposition, more concerned with social issues around the riboku, or economic considerations of livestock births.

He nods approval of Taiki's explanation; nothing to add. ]

[mtsilver_conquor]

[Eva nods in understanding; her world has very real gods, too.] The gods do as they will, that much I know as truth. I do hope those the vast majority do end up with a child in the end.

[She likes happy endings.] Is there no way to predict these shoku storms and thus protect the ranka? Or is it deemed impossible?

[longforgottenpromise]

Um... I don't think so. [He glances at Gyousou and then back at Eva. He doubts it. Storms were unpredictable and if ranka could be lost even from the Shashinboku, guarded as it was then it was unlikely any riboku could be protected.]

[eyeslikeblood]

Unfortunately not. We try to keep registers of lost ranka, should they return from Hourai or Kunlun-- Earth, that is. We call those that find their way home 'taika'.

[ He meets Taiki's eyes, expression proud. ] Kouri here is one such taika.

[mtsilver_conquor]

That's... Damn. And I assume you've tried, too.

[There is the slightest of head tilts at 'taika' before Eva laughs a little. Womb-fruit. Makes a lot of sense, given what she knows.

...and now she's wondering how many names Taki has, or if that's some sort of title. Eh, she'll go with the one she knows.]

Either way, I'm glad you made it back to your world, Taiki-san.

[longforgottenpromise]

[Taiki-san sounds weird, a mash of his two worlds that startles him slightly but he tries not to show the discomfort on his face and doesn't say anything. He knows Eva is being polite and doesn't want to meet that with rudeness.]

Thank you Iden'no-san. I was very lucky.

[eyeslikeblood]

[ He, on the other hand... ]

Just Taiki is sufficient. [ It's said in a very commonplace tone, with his faint smile still in place; he doesn't want to lecture. ] It means 'the kirin of Tai', which is honour enough. If you would like to be formal, his title is taiho.

/slowpoke noises even I love this thread.

[mtsilver_conquor]

I don't want to be forward-

[Wait, what?

And now Eva really looks like a deer in the headlights -or a common-born woman so out of her depth when it comes to rank, both literal and social, that is so far above her head it's not funny-, eyes wide as she stares at Taiki.

And then the deepest, most formal bow ever to him.]

Forgive me for being so forward and rude towards you.

[That is very much a formal register and tone.

Someone help before she dies of embarrassment.]

[longforgottenpromise]

Don't be sorry. [He reaches out to take her hands, to try and stop her being so worried and formal. He knows she is embarrassed and he doesn't want her to be.] It doesn't much matter here, this is a train not a court and not even Lord Gyousou expects people to stand on ceremony here.

[He smiles at her, trying to be reassuring.]

[eyeslikeblood]

[ He's in complete agreement. ] No need for it in this strange place.

[ Taiki seems to have it handled, so he stays seated ] You are not, after all, one of our citizens, and owe us no fealty. Think of it as... a comment on cultural exchange, that 'Taiki' is considered respectful, and shouldn't worry you to use.

[mtsilver_conquor]

Like non-Yamatan names, then. Yet - it- it's less that and um. [Breathe, don't panic. They're right; she's not one of their citizens. Gods and the Four- They're right. Don't overthink it, just accept. Another breath and she does her best to wrap the mantle of Champion about her.

Yet, even with the reassurance and grip on her hand, she's still unsure and still wishing the ground would swallow her up.] To just use a name sans honorific is considered extremely forward and rude in my own culture, so I'll... I'll use Taiho.

[Look, she'd use Taiki-Taiho, but. Taiho is enough, probably.]

[longforgottenpromise]

If... Sorry... If it is too strange for you. [He smiled gently at her.] When I was on earth I was called Takasato Kaname. So you can call me Takasato-san if you wish and I shall call you Iden'no-san.

[He doesn't want her to feel uncomfortable.

[eyeslikeblood]

[ He shrugs; he doesn't particularly mind. He does, however, raise an eyebrow at the foreign name said by Taiki. It's been years since he last heard it. ] Ah, yes. I call him Kouri, which is a reading of the characters for Takasato, with three additional strokes...

[ He stops, and laughs. ]

Pardon me. I suppose this is rather complicated. He's right, Takasato-san would be the easiest for you.

[mtsilver_conquor]

From an outsider's point, I guess it would be. It's not, though. You have what you call him, and I'm an outsider anyway.

[There's a grin and shrug.] 'Taiho's a title that gives respect, yes? All that means is even if I used 'Takasato', I'd still be appending 'Taiho' to it as a mark of respect and showing the rank he has. My culture and upbringing dictate it.

It's the same with 'Gyousou-dono', where 'dono' is a title and mark of respect. There's also 'sama' but that's... complicated.