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voidtreckernet2021-10-01 10:32 pm
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Nebula 16
[For those that don't know Murphy, the man on the screen outright just looks likes Voltaire wet dream, complete with red skin, Satan aesthetic, black suit with a red shirt and he's got the voice of a story-telling podcaster.]
Moral Quandary Time! Where do you draw the line in killing people? Are you a 'no, never' person? A 'only in self-defense person'? A 'the world'd be better without this person' person? Maybe even a 'You killed my father, prepare to die!' type. Or, maybe? All it would take is something that'll line your pockets.
Maybe the setting counts. Somewhere like my world, where billions of undead roam hungry and the living trample each other to survive. Definitely one where even the softest heart would be hard-pressed to stay their hand. Or you go to one of those colorful, magical places where the grass looks like astroturf and there are rainbows with no clouds. But you found out all the cute, adorable fuzzy things there were slowly going to cause the extinction of five other species.
This isn't just a question about murder philosophy. Missions are tough and some just want to help and some of us are desensitized. You might need someone who can easily do what you'd struggle with. Then again, you might need someone with a little more patience so you don't snap someone's neck.
[Murphy withholds the question about whether someone would rather him get information one way or the other if it came down to a choice. He'll wait on that one 'cause he's sure the initial answer would be, 'I would rather you do neither.]
Also hello to the new people! Hiiii. Yeah. You might get mindfucked. There's a lot of that recently. I'm sure someone else with a healthy dose of PTSD can fill you in on how that went.
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[Well. That's a take to hear from a kid!]
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[He had a grade school age child rob his group at gunpoint along with their family, he's used to it at this point.]
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[Well at least she's not beating around the bush!] ...Obviously, there are times when death can't be avoided. ...My cousin would like to believe otherwise, but sometimes, for whatever reason and circumstance, that isn't the case.
...but that answer will never be seen, unless one tries to avoid it first.
...I give exceptions to Heroic Spirits, due to how they're formed, I'll add... ...otherwise, Izo-niichan would get upset. It's not his fault he's defined by that title in historic memory.
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Oh, so that's someone you know? Eh, I've been the Savior of Humanity, the Zombie Messiah, the Big Red One... The Murphy which I never quite figured out. People just started using the 'the' along the line somewhere. Names happen whether you want them or not. I'm not judging.
[He never wanted at least two of those names. The Big Red One, though, he doesn't mind.]
Okay, so, new question. Were you from a relatively 'safe' background?
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To pull a trigger should be hard, not easy.
[In any case.] Mn. ...It's not exactly the same. ...A 'Heroic Spirit' is...one part a spirit, and one part a memory, defined by humanity. The person that they are, and their impulses, become defined by it...in living history, Okada Izo was recorded as an infamous assassin, obtaining the nickname 'manslayer'.
Therefore, the 'memory of Okada Izo' can't not be.
[The gist, ultimately, is that Heroic Spirit Okada Izo can't really be anything BUT the Manslayer, because that was kind of the original Izo's whole mark on history.
Anyway.]
No.
[Well, that's blunt.]
...My answer to your opening question comes from personal experience.
[ah, well]
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....And that's weird. But also kind of neat? So it's... sort of like a reputation given form? Or what if someone was written for TV? I dunno. But alright, that makes sense. Actually I'll come back to that because that sounds interesting, but I gotta do this question.
What are you willing to do when you're protecting people? Kids, injured, invalids.
[There's a more complicated question he considers asking here. He's paraphrasing situations he's been around. But for now he goes that direction because he wants to know what the fuck the other thing is.]
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...I assume 'kids' includes my age and under? [She certainly sounds like a kid, but anyway.]
Assuming my options are exhausted, I can do it. [No guesses what 'it' is.] ...But if high-powered sedatives weren't enough, then I would have to rely on someone else being present as well, to make sure everyone I was protecting survived.
I'm still one person.
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I think it depends on the setting. I remember the world being normal. Back then I'd have a healthy, "Sure, you're crazy," for someone who killed people. Then the apocalypse happened and I turned into, "Sure, you're crazy" for people that took too many risks.
[And there was a time that only his group mattered... okay, that only changed a little bit. But he does have more empathy than he used to.]
Back here? I'm feelin' a little in between on it. People have all kinds of history and responsibilities and dealt with space tyrant kings and all that. It's complicated, you know? Speaking of complicated how do you even make people out of myths? Do they just happen or something?
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[That aside.] When a person has left a significant mark on history, their soul is entered into the 'Throne of Heroes', a part of the root of all life and magic. From this, a sufficiently powered mage can seek to call on their help, drawing a projection of that soul into reality to fight for their purposes. ...in a way...being entered into the throne could 'just happen'...
...But summoning is always 'because' of something, even if it's from the world itself...
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That... is really wild. So... Okay, give me some examples here? So I get the Manslayer thing a little more now.
And, you know, sounds like a good story.
[kiyoiri voice] 'and don't get me started on Jeanne D'Arc Archer, or Jeanne D'Arc Alter Santa Lily,'
Jeanne D'Arc in life was one who, at the time of her activity, a divisive force in France; a hero to those she helped, but one who was effectively offered as tribute by her own country at the end of the war. It's been noted by another, [Cough, Jeanne D'Arc Alter, Cough] That the attitudes of someone who fought and died in this way at the stake, would have had at least some anger to it.
Jeanne D'Arc as a Heroic Spirit however, represents the idealized 'Saint', carrying a banner of protection; the symbol of the holy maiden, with little else. ...Personally, she's very nice, but as far as the Jeanne of history, she cannot be the same.
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Because you said the summoning has to happen for a reason, I'm just wondering how the summoning has some bearing on how people turn out...
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...but no matter how you summoned Heroic Spirit Jeanne D'Arc, she would be the woman I described; because that is the prevailing 'idea' that humanity and history has now put down.
[No amount of astrology, choice of summoner, or otherwise, decides it; they're at the very whims of how the majority of history has Decided they are.]
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Anyway, you've got a weird thing going on, too. [Which is oddly comforting. Despite the fact Murphy half embraces his role as being generally strange he's also missed just plain drab normalcy. But suddenly there's all kinds of fucked up places with performative shit? Oh, that's the best kind of normal to feel.]
[So he doesn't actually sound judgemental about that. Just a thoughtful observation.]
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[Um,] ...The stakes are higher than 'rock 'em sock 'em', but yes.
[And....] ...Yes, definitely. [It's an observation on her end as well. There's been some wild shit going down.]
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I'd probably be into it, though. Even as a bystander. I love a good show and a good competition. [It's either a fault or a blessing.]
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[Unfortunately.]