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Day Twenty One: Engine Room to All Carriages
Each passenger may ask three.
(OOC: Please read this ooc information before posting!)
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[He started tapping his left foot in an overabundance of nervous energy, frowning.]
At that point, it sounds like we're bordering on considering how to hack the train and altering its parameters. And if there isn't any other way to break out of whatever infinite loop it's stuck in, we may have to.
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[It just seemed so normal, that the idea of something stretching even farther across time and space felt like a natural step upward...
In any case.] Mnh. I definitely don't recommend that, personally. Not without someone who has direct experience with the technology- for all that I asked if it would be acceptable to do internal work if it became necessary, the train's immediate reply was that it would 'not be appropriate'. Chances are that if we try anything without enough information, we'll find ourselves facing unexpected consequences on both ends. [By which she means, the train may not even intend to harm anything when harm inevitably comes to them as a result.]
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No, it'd be pretty stupid to go poking about in something we don't understand. And that's even if we knew where to start. But we can't keep going on like this from mission to mission forever, least of all with so much at stake. I don't want to rely on the suggested concept of time travel being dangled in front of us when the current situation seems closer to 'we're stuck here until the train says so, which is never'.
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I can bet that that one will be the most troublesome for now though. We're limited by whatever planets and worlds the train stops at- and I suspect it's avoiding anything with awareness of the technology given this...'renegade' status, [she hums, frowning.] ...I can't say I can fault it for that, but it's still an obstacle in our path...
...with any luck breaking the communications barrier can solve two problems at once in that regard.
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...If we can just get messages out--just that alone would set me and a lot of people at ease, I bet.
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[The kettle is starting to steam.] Ah, that's quick-
Do you want a cup of anything? I filled the kettle to the top. [She'd offer coffee, but she suspects that's not the best option for any nerves right now. Much as it's her go-to.]
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Sorry--in all that, I didn't introduce myself. Just call me 'Professor' for now.
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...Professor? [Oh- She can't help but laugh a bit at that.] ...It's like being back on campus, hah... ...Yuume Souryuu is my own name. The train has me registered incorrectly, but I don't expect it to understand apprentice systems in the end. Is it alright to ask what you teach then, 'Professor'?
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[He shrugged, fingers tapping on the silver handle of his cane.]
I'm a teacher of alchemy and modern magecraft theory back home in London. Nice to meet you, Yuume.
me googling the difference between history and archaeology like 'oh ok'
At home, magic is considered anything not quite pinned down in regard to the laws of energy exchange...a sort of science in itself, but one that's yet to be defined. It's normally inaccessible to anything other than the Shadows however, so I suspect it's going to remain undefined for a long, long time.
It's good to meet you as well, [she ultimately adds with a nod, filling the mug.] I study history, myself- arguably archaeology with how far back it stretches, but I find when interviewing beings that have lived since those times, 'history' is the preferred word.
[She's had at least one 'Magician' get touchy about being considered so old they're part of archaeological study. (It's hardly her fault there's nothing written from those eras...)]
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[But he raised an eyebrow at the last remark, interested rather than skeptical.]
...I'm sorry, interviewing what?
i'm sorry for this waver u-u
...Ah- yes, shadows are rather unique to my world- or at least, mine and those similar. I have one relative on board, and there are others from what are at the least mostly similar timelines and realms, to the point where I was able to handle a consult on one such person's state of their soul, [she rambles on, not quite realizing how alarming that in itself might sound.] The 'shadow' is in essence an extension of the human soul- it wasn't there at the start of human history, and not all 'shadows' are even connected to humans, but many are. The theory goes that the two are protecting each other somehow in a pseudo-symbotic relationship...
Ah, I'm digressing though- Shadows. Think of them as...spirits, in a sense. Mythical beasts, deities, even the forms of heroes or typical animals, they can take all of those forms, and exist within their own realm, parallel to my own. When I refer to shadows in general, it's those inhabitants that I speak of- though the name itself comes due to those bound to human souls. They manifest the connection through the shadow at one's feet.
It wasn't a possibility until quite recently, but we've come upon an age where the two realms are close enough that more and more people are realizing those connections- from there, came work that made entering their own realm possible.
...which created quite a shift in studies relating to history suffice to say, as quite a few of those beings have been around since...well, the start of the world itself in some cases. ...Though interviewing anything that old doesn't tend to go well, given still existing language barriers...
no i'm sorry for imminent nasubabble
[That successfully distracted him from a problem they had no immediate way to fix, Waver staring at her for a moment while he began to switch gears from miserable to stunned fascination.]
Your world has...essentially Master-Servant contracts? Just--that's just a normal thing?
ITS OK I GET PLENTY OF BABBLE JUST PLAYING FGO RIP
Eh? [Well, here's your tea at least??]
I...suppose? You'll have to explain what 'Master-Servant' contracts are for me to confirm however...
I don't think I'd describe it quite with those words either, since the two are quite desperately linked... ...though assuming the spirit in this case would equate to the 'servant', that does represent the somewhat replaceable end...it's one of the aspects of my work actually, as losing one's shadow locks them into a rather permanent 'out of time' state until a shadow capable of filling the void can be found. On the other hand, you simply can't connect a severed shadow to a different person...
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Heroic Spirits have existed since the beginning of human history; for as long as there have been legends and heroes. But it's not as if every single mage can summon one; only seven Servants can exist in the world at a single time. [
laughs in apocrypha, extra, and fgo] So it isn't a matter of realms connecting, or of such figures being automatically connected to people.no subject
Generally, if the human side is killed, the shadow isn't- they're simply left unconnected to the human plane. That said, it's possible to sever and trap them within that end of existence- those are called 'renegades', and are unfortunately left to sort matters in whatever way they can. I've actually visited restaurants with a 'renegade' on the waitstaff... [How far the mighty can fall...ahh....]
In any case, shadows are what inspired tales of certain beasts and heroes, rather than heroes and beasts becoming shadows- the last time the two realms were so close together would have been perhaps around 3000 BCE- on average, the pattern seems to move in 5000 year intervals, though this is admittedly the first time it's remained so constant. I suspect it's because of the state of the human plane itself; it wasn't split into four dimensions until the current century.
[There's a lot to unpack there, and it might be best to throw out the entire suitcase.] Only seven servants though... [IF THEY ONLY KNEW...] ...hahaaaa...and here there are probably almost as many shadows active as a full quarter of the population...
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[He laughed quietly at that, the sound hollow and a little halfhearted.]
That many, huh...? That's...pretty impressive.
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[Mnnnh. Something about that laugh though...] Considering the focus on 'heroes', and the small number however, I suspect the system from your own home is a little more tightly focused on some sort of goal however...
[Oof.]
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[Shrugging in an attempt to brush off the gravity of the situation, Waver simply took a drink.]
...There weren't a lot of Masters that survived the last conflict. I was one of them, so a situation like you're describing holds a lot of interest for me.
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I'm sorry that the status of my own world won't likely contribute much then. I'd be happy to talk more about it of course, but it seems with any points of clarity it'll only diverge farther...
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[waver has clearly not read hollow ataraxia]
i almost used the round table cards but decided that'd be TOO MUCH sob
[The laugh fades however, the smile becoming rather bittersweet.] ...Shirou was unfortunately...a victim of what's called 'soul death', however. Ra was killed defending him, from which point the boy was time-locked. The replacement found within the realms was Sekhmet, however; if the myths are similar in your world, perhaps you know of the one where she was Ra's eye? I suspect that's what allowed the compatibility.
In terms of others...ah! I was able to meet with Beatrice Portinari once~ [she gushes, beaming quite happily.] She was wonderful to talk to! Her official title as a shadow was 'Beatrice, the Lady Eternal', which was fairly interesting...
...Actually Beatrice herself was rather interesting in that she had a human life at one point, which is what made me think of her in regard to your question- most shadows obviously can't say they've had such things, but I expect that most with such direct connections to human lives did. I would have to look farther into that from home however, since as I said, most shadows don't fall into such categories. Instead they're what you would associate with mythical peoples, or gods, or animals...having a concrete name is rather rare.
[laughs in saberfaces]
[laughs harder in grand servants]
Gilgamesh, for example. Probably the strongest Servant one could summon, both by virtue of being part divine and because his is the oldest legend in human history. The older and more well-known a hero is, the stronger their potential--so he's close to the upper limit if not the limit itself.
[Beat.]
Kind of a prick, too.
stares distantly at the sabercrowd....
[It's a rather beautiful sort of event to watch though. Ah-] G- Gilgamesh..!? From the Epic of Gilgamesh..!? [She exclaims, a wide, beaming smile on her face for a moment.
Well, of course...] .......Somehow that doesn't surprise me to hear...
[He doesn't exactly come across as 'nice' in the tale after all...] Mnnh, it's interesting that that be the standard for strength though, but it does make sense...for a hero to be known that long, it would have to be quite a persisting memory after all. The concept might not necessarily align with how it works in my own realm but ultimately, the power of 'memory' is quite impressive when it comes to the side effects in magic...
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[An understatement. But Waver looked thoughtful for a moment, then continued.]
It's a 'collective unconscious' sort of thing when it comes to Servants; recorded human history influences a fair bit about them even if the core legend remains generally true to life. So I guess you could say it's a matter of memory, sure.
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