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Tony Stark ([personal profile] runs_on_batteries) wrote in [community profile] voidtreckernet2020-05-25 10:31 pm

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Good evening, Voidtreckers. I'd like to announce a council meeting in three days. It's overdue and I believe we have a number of items to discuss.

Please council members take some time over the next few days to come up with and notify me of topics we need to discuss so I can prepare an agenda. If anyone who is not a council member feels strongly about a certain topic we should consider, either tell me or seek out a council member so they may relay the information.
blitzcheer: (whatcha gonna do about iiitt)

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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-27 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoa, this turned into a talk and a half!

[ He was barely paying attention, and then there was a series of back and forth? Open meetings closed meetings open meetings? ]

Anyway, I guess we all get a say on what we think, right, then you take it to the meeting? 'Cause I'm another vote from the public for opening this up. Why not? [ A small shrug follows it. ] It sounds this is for the better of everyone on the train, and wouldn't it be easier for people to chip in with their ideas? The gym's got to be big enough for whoever wants to come!

We can come up together with ideas for stress relievers or fun days, or whatever else that's important. We're in this together anyway, right?
blitzcheer: (i need one hands behind head)

[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-27 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Oh hey, one of the people he saw in all that-- ]

Aha- let us know how it goes! I guess you will-- [ a general you, a 'council' you ] --but even giving opening it up a test run can't hurt, can it?
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[personal profile] mtsilver_conquor 2020-05-27 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, and like I said, there's ways to do it and protect those new to the role FM being overwhelmed.

I am going to be recording it though and making the transcripts and said recording public. So, no matter happens, people will get to hear what happens at least.
blitzcheer: (sorrrRRRrrrrYyyyyyy)

[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-27 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That works. [ The recordings and transcripts, that is. ] Is there anything like that for the other meetings? I dunno a lot about them--everything I've read is on that welcome leaflet.

[ Admitted somewhat sheepishly. ]
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[personal profile] mtsilver_conquor 2020-05-28 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, no. This is the first time I've been able to record like this, and I plan to have full transparency with the process.

Point and I'll see to it that's changed. I'm Eva Iden'no, by the way, and not all of us who ended up on the council actually ran for it. I got voted in because I'm good at listening and people think I'm a good leader for some reason.

[Because she is.] But, just because I didn't want the job doesn't mean I don't take it seriously.
blitzcheer: (put some clothes on)

[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
[ That gets him to blink, around the part about voted in. But before he asks- ]

I'm Tidus. [ Introduction comes first! ] You got voted in? So... people can say they wanna join, or other people can vote and make 'em?
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[personal profile] mtsilver_conquor 2020-05-28 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
A little over a month ago, Stark-san put out a call for those on the train to nominate who they wanted on a council. I was one of them and then I was voted in about a seven-day after that. I could have refused, but I didn't because I have a duty by those who voted for me, and I tended to do carry it out to the best of my ability.

Honestly, I'd like to see us get through at least four months of a stable council before we have another election. Ideally six, but that's hard given we don't have control over who leaves, but that's my thoughts on it.
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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
[ Maybe that's normal, that sort of voting, Tidus doesn't know. It sounds weird to him, but his proximity to any type or knowledge of politics is barely basic, so he'll leave it, focus on the other stuff. ]

Did you lose some of the people who used to be on the council?

[ Is that why the election for new ones recently happened? ]
mtsilver_conquor: (Sure you did)

[personal profile] mtsilver_conquor 2020-05-28 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
That, and our numbers have grown and keep doing so and will keep doing so.

And people will keep leaving. I've been here from the start, but that doesn't make me immune from leaving, either.
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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh, I getcha. [ A nod. ]

Well, do you think there's a better way of doing it? It's kinda why I like the open idea of this whole thing. Everyone knows what's up, gets a say. Sure you can go to one of the council people later on, but if someone's interested in this stuff, they get to toss a gil in. Everyone's working together. [ Or, the people who care. ]

You'll still need people who're keeping track of this stuff... but if there's more people involved, that means it's easier to pass on work when somebody goes, right? And you're trying to do that with your transcripts...

[ His thoughts may be a little all over the place with this council business. ]
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[personal profile] mtsilver_conquor 2020-05-28 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I just don't know how it's going to be handled yet, but it should be open to everyone somehow.

Yes, and I plan to have backups of the transcripts left with people I trust, though doubtless the rest of the Council'll want the same, so it'll work out in the end.

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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-27 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, just adding my thoughts. This thing's open for anyone to listen in on, right? [ A one-shouldered shrug. ]

I wanted to give my support to the idea.
blitzcheer: (arms folding galore!!)

[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-27 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Tidus. I showed up at the last stop. [ He answers amicably, following it with a beat. ] And you're Tony, right? I'm one of those deaf guys that didn't hear about you 'til I was on the island.

[ To use Tony's words to Lightning there, though his tone is slick with humour when he repeats it. ]
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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well...yeah, sure. Since we're talking about this. [ Right? Might as well. ]

The council, I get the idea of it--trying to figure out how to make this ride better for everyone, right? But there isn't anything about what you focus on around, not what I've seen. Like, what you do, or try to, or what's useful to bring to you guys, you know?

Unless I missed something. [ Tidus looks off camera beside himself, the space around him visible as a lower bunk bed. A crumbled welcome leaflet flaps into view. ]

I've got this thing, and it lists a bunch of names and that's about it. ....Sooo- [ he thinks for a second, searching for a way of asking the inevitable. His mouth tilting on one side. ]

Am I blind too?

[ Said, as if there was the possibility, but let's hide behind a joke. Was there more about this council and he just missed it? Is it in the library?

...it's in the library, isn't it. ]
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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
...I guess so, [ technically, yeah, ] but you got that in writing? Somewhere people can find that out on the train?

I think it'd help out if you don't! [ He still isn't a hundred percent sure they don't, so he tries to keep it sounding like the friendly questioning and suggestion he means it to be. ] Make things less confusing what you guys are about, y'know?
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[personal profile] blitzcheer 2020-05-28 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
[ Tidus stays sitting on his bed awkwardly, feeling sympathetic from the sounds of the muttering he catches.

Poor Eva, apparently... ]


Sure! Hey, 'least you know now. I figure everyone's trying their best. S'not like the train or whoever's running it is giving a hand. [ Speaking of sympathies- ] It must've sucked when our watches suddenly decided they can talk with your phone project.

[ He waves his left hand when he says that, the SCA with its purple strap still around his wrist. ]

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[personal profile] laurefindil 2020-05-29 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hello,

Pardon me for interrupting, but I have some questions.

I just joined when the elections were held and honestly did not know many of those nominated. I still don't know several, yourself included, aside from a brief chat when I turned in my questionnaire.

Why are the Team Leaders not considered part of the council?
How often are elections held?
Is there a recourse if a council member is found to be lacking--or more likely, what is the replacement policy if one leaves the Train?
What are these rules that the council will be creating and enforcing? If someone doesn't agree to abide by the Council's rules, do we have a fair way of dealing with them? Not everyone comes from a World where this is a thing. I do, I served on Elrond's council for over 3000 years, but some seem more anarchical or have severe phobias to authority. Decisions on how to deal with our fellow VoidTrekkers with those issues definitely need to be transparent.
Will some things be brought to the greater group for voting or will it all be decided on by the Council?

Regarding the Team Leads, you say they are selected by their team. When does this happen?

Forgive me for so many questions. Thank you for your time.
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[personal profile] laurefindil 2020-05-30 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely understand. Dealing with a constant influx and outflux of people is something we had to cope with in Imladris, as well. Having a solid core of leadership is important. As long as the people's voices are heard, of course.

I was thinking of the Team Leaders more as an advisory role, since they have their fingers more on the day to day needs of their team. They could bring specific trends to the Council's attention, that might otherwise get overlooked. But it was just a thought.

I have no issues with the leaders, I was just curious and now seemed like a good time to ask. Thank you.

If I might suggest, perhaps having an Ombudsman or someone who people can go to go bring up anonymous issues, or if someone has an issue with the Council themselves? They would not be part of the Council themselves, but if they feel that something is a valid concern or something several have brought up, they would bring it to the Council for attention.

Also, having a Secretary whose duties are to create an agenda. It is fine if people go to an individual Council member to bring up something that needs to be addressed, but some may not know any of the Council Members yet or feel shy and not want to bother them. But if there is someone whose duties are exactly that, it might help. Again, just a thought.

I understand there is a delicate balance between wanting to encourage the new Council members and let them get comfortable in their roles, and making sure that the people they are representing feel comfortable with the leadership of the Council. Unfortunately closed meetings are, as you've discovered, not the way to do that. Limiting the discussion or comments from non-council members during the meeting might help. Perhaps have a separate place where comments can be submitted by those watching, and if any are important, address them during the new business section?

I do see this is something you take seriously. I look forward to seeing what the Council will do for us.

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