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Tony Stark ([personal profile] runs_on_batteries) wrote in [community profile] voidtreckernet2020-04-21 11:43 pm

Video: Election Results

[ooc: Sorry this was supposed to go up yesterday.]

Please welcome with me our new council! We had a three way tie for our last two spots, so we're going to have twelve members.

These individuals are: Bucky, Curufin, Eva, Feanor, Kaiba, Nerdanel, Nita, Sarai, Yuffie, Ignis, The Doctor, and myself.

Congratulations and we'll have to come up with a good time for our first meeting soon.
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, you leave Peter alone! You don't know anything about him and fuck if you had gone through half of what he did you would be encouraged to be a child too. He is never not punished for those actions and he knows the consequences. You leave the fuck alone. You are not family and you are not a friend of his. You, therefore, get zero say in how he is raised. We will speak to him about being polite but that goes both ways so if I - we - ever come across you being rude and bullying him again there is going to be hell to pay.

If you didn't like the people who were on the Council why didn't you encourage other people to run? run a campaign for them? I'm pretty sure that is how it works. I voted for those who I thought would do the best job.

So grow up and learn how to walk away.
onehandsomeslickninja: (ha ninja something!)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Same question to you. Is he a kid or is he a man?

Because you're all saying he's a kid, and at the same time you're all okay with him taking on the "everything is my responsibility, not yours" lesson. That's not an attitude a kid should have.

You're raising him to be someone who gets people hurt. You want me to ignore that, fine. I'll swallow my bile.
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
[May is beyond furious now]

Just because he is a kid doesn't mean he is too young not to take responsibility for his actions! It's a lesson in growing up.

DON'T YOU EVER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. [May yells] He has never gone out of his way to hurt someone and never will. I don't know what the fuck gave you that idea.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away amano)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
His own words.

[That's all the answer he feels he needs to give. Whether or not she likes it, that is precisely where he got that idea.]
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
What. Words. Answer me NOW.
onehandsomeslickninja: (down to business)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
...Why did you say the 'answer me now' part? I would have anyway. Saying that just makes me not want to.

[No, he's seriously confused.]

It was this: if we were to each take the floor of a burning house to rescue the people inside, he'd feel absolutely obligated to check and make sure I'd done the job right.

That may not seem like much to you, but think about it. First, it shows a lack of trust. If you can't trust the people you're working with, you're not going to make good decisions. In a crisis, that can get people hurt or killed.

Second, it means he's less likely to do his own job thoroughly, because he's also thinking about doing mine as well. He's trying to take care of not only the people he's saving, but the people doing the saving. I know that seems like he has a good heart, but that's a terrible attitude to have in the middle of a big situation. It's back to trust. If you're taking on everything like that, you're not giving anything the full attention it deserves.

Third, it's that 'I am responsible for everything, you are not' attitude. Again, that leads to poor decision-making. You spend all of your time trying to plan ways to keep people from messing up the job, instead of relying on them to do it. In the end, you mess up everyone's job and none of it gets done well.

Is this clear? It really is the difference between being in a situation together, and being in a situation alone even when other people are there to help. In a battle or a disaster... that can, and will, get people killed.

The people of Eblan survived because they trusted each other. Each did their job and relied on their fellow to do his. The evil that threatened the five of us on the Moon fell because we trusted and supported each other -- not because Cecil second-guessed our every choice in the battle and felt constantly obligated to make sure Rosa was casting the right spell or Kain was minding his jumps.

So I say again. That attitude of his is dangerous. Lethally dangerous, in a time of need. Here, now, on this train in particular -- he is not alone. He is not the only one capable, not the only one responsible. No more than any other of us. And the one he's in most danger of hurting is himself.

I'm not okay with that. Are you?
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[personal profile] hashtagparkerluck 2020-04-23 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
[ Peter is actually seething right now because he does not like you talking to his Aunt like that, or questioning his Aunt Uncles Parenting methods. ]

I'm pretty sure I told you I wouldn't let anyone get hurt.

You're not familiar with 'no man is left behind' concept, are you?
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away amano)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I've been asked to treat you like a kid, so I won't be debating this with you.
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[personal profile] hashtagparkerluck 2020-04-23 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
well, I mean. I did telly you I was sixteen. That's not an adult.

and, you know, fyi-kids are people too.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away amano)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's adulthood where I'm from. That's when you'd see people take on the mantles they'd chosen, in whatever form.
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[personal profile] hashtagparkerluck 2020-04-24 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, okay. I'll admit I shouldn't have thrown shade-so this is me, going on record to say I'm sorry. But on that note I really didn't expect you to actually respond or even argue since I thought last time you were just upset that the council hadn't been changed out which was kinda valid-made me think maybe we should have another election.

But then you seemed so caught up on the fact that we're not doing things how your world would do them. I'm not saying everything your world does is wrong but very rarely has history actually looked favorably at a monarchy. Back home we have this saying-Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely. And it basically means if you give someone all the power they'll abuse it. That's why there has to be checks and balances to make sure that doesn't happen.

Yes, you're right it does cause some decisions to be delayed but that only ensures due process is done to make a better decision for the people they represent. The fastest way is not necessarily the best way. You get me?

You got points? I recommend you read up on the history of democracy before you start bashing it in favor of a monarchy. Maybe try to learn how the system works before you decide it doesn't work. Otherwise it just looks like you refuse to learn anything from anyone and just want to put yourself in charge. Which isn't a good look for anyone.
onehandsomeslickninja: (cold look)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-25 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
[Okay. Pause. Pause to bite down the anger.]

You. Don't seem to realize that when you say such things, you are delivering a mortal insult to me, my parents, my ancestors, and the most righteous and forthright man I know. And others I don't know as well, but who have still earned better regard than that. That is... really. Something you should consider.

What paths did your rulers even follow that they were trained so irresponsibly, and allowed themselves to become corrupted? Even the old King of Baron, a Dark Knight, ruled with honor and courage.

And if I might disagree with your assertion, that kingdom was ruled by a parliament once. The factionalism broke it into a shockingly bloody civil war that only ended when the ancestors of the royal line quelled it and were crowned. So history has taught us just the opposite lesson.
hashtagparkerluck: (sounds fake but okay)

[personal profile] hashtagparkerluck 2020-04-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god. [ He's rubbing at his eyes because wow. ]

I'm gonna give you some advice and I highly suggest you take it-Stop trying to be offended by the fact don't have a great reputation. French Revolution-Wanna know what happened to the Kind and his Queen? Beheaded. With a friggin Guillotine because the poorer class didn't have money for food and they were fed up.

The Czar of Russia-Nicholas Romanov-his whole family was murdered in what my world calls the Russian Revolution where the monarchy was abolished because again, people were fed up. That has nothing to do with your kingdom but most people on this train, guarantee you, do not want one single person in charge of all of us. History has shown repeatedly that it's a bad idea. In fact, where I'm from there's only one true monarchy left and it's under scrutiny right now because the person in charge is-guess what-A dictator.

What you don't seem to realise is that everyone on the train is happy with things how they are for now. And a majority of people here think you need to re-evaluate your life. And when most people think you need to re-evaluate your life? You probably need to re-evaluate your life. You don't see anyone else throwing a bitch-fit because we have a council. So maybe, just maybe you should stop and consider you might be the one in the wrong.
onehandsomeslickninja: (cold look)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-25 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
[This little boy... badly, badly needs to be taught a lesson, one that Edge has determined his guardians never will.]

[That helps his temper, a little. Because now that Edge has seen just how terrible a job the adults in his life are doing, in his opinion, the ninja can at least accept that he doesn't know any better. The others are spoiling him mercilessly, it seems, protecting him from the consequences of his actions.]


Since you continue to willfully insult me because you disagree with me, this is over. We will not speak of it again.
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[personal profile] hashtagparkerluck 2020-04-25 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god I am not insulting you. I've called you out on several occasions because I think you're just not understanding-or that's what I thought. With how you're acting right now though? I'm like 90-80 percent sure you're just mad you're not the one in charge.

Never did I say anything directly about your character or your kingdom. I didn't say anything about if you were the leader we'd all be dead, I didn't call you a coward, or incompetent, or a jester, and I didn't tell anyone that what you've been through doesn't matter.
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about the last time you talked? Because that is not at all what he said. He said he would work with you because everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses and by working together you get the best job done as possible. You're a team, members of teams notice different things which is why they are working together. He'd expect you to check his work too because it's about working together which is something you seem to have missed.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away amano)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
If that is what you heard, then we have nothing to discuss. I'll hope you're right and I'm wrong.

[If he's treating the kid like a kid... and more to the point, one that needs to be protected instead of educated, since that's what he hears from them... then he'll let it drop.]

[If blood comes from it, his conscience will... not be at peace, but what can he do?]
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Given that I have raised Peter since he was practically a baby, I would say there is a higher chance that I am right.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away cool)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
You don't think you might be a bit inclined to see only good in him? You can be certain your love and affection doesn't give you a little blind spot?
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[personal profile] mayp 2020-04-23 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
No, I know his flaws well enough to judge what sort of person he is.
onehandsomeslickninja: (turned away amano)

[personal profile] onehandsomeslickninja 2020-04-23 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Then it's as I said. I'll hope you're right and I'm wrong.