voidtreckernet | Domino 18 [Video]

Domino 18 [Video]

Before I came here, the residents of the train chose a Council.

They chose unwisely.

You ask me to bend my knee to an unworthy leader, one who you have chosen for me. I will not. If my refusal to swear allegiance to one not of my land, not of my clan, and not of my choice is objectionable to you, then now is the time to bring your complaints to me. I await them.

[There is hot anger, and there is cold anger. This is cold anger. It brings out the formality in Edge as few things can.]

Let's see how this train is truly run.

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Personal responsibility doesn't mean we can't do things for each other. Like chores. If that's the best argument you have, you have no argument at all. What IS abdication is allowing someone else to take all responsibility for us and our situation. Which is precisely what was said, in so many words.

So will you claim I'm lying, or proclaim that such an insistence is perfectly all right? The former seems most popular, but I'm not officially counting.

Well, you did just claim that allowing others to take care of you is wrong. So I fail to see where is the line that you're trying to draw. So is it or is it not wrong for people to do things for each other? It is a simple question.

What I cannot see is what made you come to the conclusion that everyone is ceding their, as you said it, personal responsibility. Can you expand on that thought? Because right now all I hear is you repeating the same words and that's not making your case any clearer.

I claim none of what you are trying to pin on me. All I am asking is for some evidence to support your cause. If I were to call you anything then I think deluded would be the closest word to what I would use.

If you're incapable of understanding the difference between mutual cooperation and abdication of personal responsibility... that actually explains so much about your arguments! But since you need it spelled out, specifically speaking we have all been told that we have and are allowed no responsibility or duty to deal with this situation and get us all off of this train.

It is less me being incapable of understanding and more you being incapable of getting your point across.

[Oh? So that's what hurts you.]

Have we now? I, for one, remember no such thing. Quite to the contrary. I believe everyone is invited to come up with reasonable ideas [Key word: reasonable.] how to send home people who want to be sent home. If you have any suggestions to offer then do share. If they are not utter lunacy, I'm sure more people would like to hear them.

[Fëanor strongly suspects that if there even are any, they will be utter lunacy.]

Then you haven't talked to Tony Stark, who has explicitly said that all responsibility for our situation is on him, not on us. Of course, certainly we may offer our suggestions, but doing anything about them is another matter entirely. Since we have no responsibility, and as such must cede such things to our better who does.

[There is a considerable delay before Fëanor's response. When it does come, it's not video anymore, only audio.]

I see. So that's the case.

[For the love of Eru! Both of you what the hell is it about exactly?]

Since I was not present at the conversation, I cannot be a judge of what he exactly meant. If it were indeed presented as you say I would not have agreed with him either. But I wasn't there so I cannot say anything with any degree of certainty.

[It's true that Fëanor likes Tony Stark and generally agrees with him more often than not. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to hit him with a stick sometimes. It is also true that words are tricky things; easy to interpret as one sees fit. To have a sentence interpreted in a positive or negative light is often a matter of perspective.]

Naturally, as soon as I provide some evidence you fall back on "I wasn't there, I don't know", when before you couldn't race to scourge me fast enough despite that still not being true. [Edge is mad, and as such, not prepared to acknowledge even a slight possible backtrack.]

[In truth, it takes very little to make Fëanor mad. He was unusually calm during this whole conversation. Condescending, well yes, but calm.]

Fine.

[He was trying to be considerate here. Where did it get him? Absolutely nowhere.]

Suit yourself. I'm done with this silliness.

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