Depends on how confident you are, and what moves you're doing. [ He's moved to tossing the rugy between hands, his gaze elsewhere as he thinks. ] But you need to warm up, so you start on land first before moving into the pool. It's less about rushing in, and more figuring how you want your body to move first, you know? Everything you do in the water's going to be slower.

Once you start get the hang of it, you don't practice the more difficult moves on land. [ With Roland's hair up, he pulls back his forearm with the rugby in tow, waiting for Roland to seem prepared to catch it before he throws. ]

-- but it's fun to show off. Fans love it!